[QLab] QLab Digest, Vol 15, Issue 13

Mon Mar 12 06:15:51 PDT 2007

As a new user, let me say thanks to Chris and all the others on this list.
We have recently switched over from PC-land and had our students run two
shows on Q-Lab.  It is great for them and we are looking forward to adding
video to the mix.

Personally, I'm a bit challenged by it since this is my first hands-on work
with Macs and I am an old phart with old habits.

In that regard, I wonder if anyone on the list will be at USITT and would be
willing to spend a few minutes with me and my machine to help sort out a few
mysteries?

I will be in residence at the Clark Transfer booth on the Expo floor, so you
can always find me there.  At least please stop by to say hello.

Alternatively, our school, with its spanking new studio theatre, is in
downtown Washington, DC.  Visitors are welcome at any time.  Just call me.

Jonathan

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Edmund Burke School

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Clark Transfer, Inc.

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Today's Topics:

   1. Remote and QLab- Timbuktu? (Steven B McDonald)
   2. Re: Remote and QLab- Timbuktu? (Jim Carroll)
   3. Re: Remote and QLab- Timbuktu? (Daniel Hoole)
   4. Re: Remote and QLab (Paul Peterson)
   5. Re: QLab PM5D ( was better living through Chemistry )
      (E. Riley Casey)
   6. Re: Remote and QLab (Daniel Hoole)
   7. Re: Remote and QLab- Timbuktu? (John Leonard)
   8. Re: QLab PM5D ( was better living through Chemistry )
      (Michael Keniger)
   9. QLab and Remote Control AirClick (Nadir Al-Badri)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:17:09 -0600
From: Steven B McDonald <Mcdonas at Colorado.EDU <mailto:> >
Subject: [QLab] Remote and QLab- Timbuktu?
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Read the remote question (and checked first to see if covered on  
blog)- Is Timbuktu an option for you? I've been running the QLab Mac  
in the booth from the floor via MacBook/Airport, and have even logged  
in a during a performance and done troubleshooting from home...

Steven

Steven McDonald
Production Manager
Theatre & Dance
University of Colorado at Boulder

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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:25:19 -0400
From: Jim Carroll <jim at shipstore.com <mailto:> >
Subject: Re: [QLab] Remote and QLab- Timbuktu?
To: "Discussion and support for QLab users." <qlab at lists.figure53.com
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I have been meaning to ask the same question. I've been using TB2 for  
over 10 years to manage our office network. As long as there is  
either a local airport connection or an internet connection, the  
target machine can be driven in real time. I don't see any reason why  
it can't work for QLab. I have never specifically tested it for  
latency, but it always like it is dead-on.

TB2 also makes it really easy to move the entire show build from one  
machine to another.

Jim Carroll

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On Mar 11, 2007, at 7:17 PM, Steven B McDonald wrote:

> Read the remote question (and checked first to see if covered on
> blog)- Is Timbuktu an option for you? I've been running the QLab Mac
> in the booth from the floor via MacBook/Airport, and have even logged
> in a during a performance and done troubleshooting from home...
>
> Steven
>
> Steven McDonald
> Production Manager
> Theatre & Dance
> University of Colorado at Boulder
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:40:29 +0000
From: "Daniel Hoole" <danielhoole at googlemail.com <mailto:> >
Subject: Re: [QLab] Remote and QLab- Timbuktu?
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On 11/03/07, Steven B McDonald <Mcdonas at colorado.edu <mailto:> > wrote:
> Is Timbuktu an option for you? I've been running the QLab Mac
> in the booth from the floor via MacBook/Airport, and have even logged
> in a during a performance and done troubleshooting from home...

Sorry guys- I don't think I explained myself too well. I meant the IR
remote bundled with the new Intel Macs. For remote plotting, I'm using
a cheap microsoft laptop running VNC to ARD via a cat5 network- seems
to work fine. But in the odd moment that you need to fire off a cue
from (just) outside the control room, the IR remote might be useful...
Cheers
Dan

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:42:15 -0700
From: Paul Peterson <paul at slagheap.net <mailto:> >
Subject: Re: [QLab] Remote and QLab
To: "Discussion and support for QLab users." <qlab at lists.figure53.com
<mailto:> >
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I believe he's asking about the little IR remote that comes with most  
Macs these days.  AFAIK, it only works with iTunes and FrontRow.  But  
check out apps like Sofa Control or mira, you can DL these on  
Versiontracker.  I haven't monkeyed around with them, but they appear  
to allow you to control other apps with the remote.

My only thought about this is that the Apple remote is line-of-sight,  
so it might not work too well if the machine you're trying to trigger  
is in a booth or something.

I prefer to just create a wireless VNC connection between my lappie  
and my Mini which runs QLab.

-paul

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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:50:28 -0400
From: "E. Riley Casey" <RileyCasey at ESPsound.com <mailto:> >
Subject: Re: [QLab] QLab PM5D ( was better living through Chemistry )
To: qlab at lists.figure53.com <mailto:> 
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I have been running QLab and the Studio manager for the 5D without 
any problems for a while now but not sending any MIDI commands to the 
console.  Music from Qlab and console control from SM, each in it's 
place in the universe.  What hardware is involved in connecting the , 
I presume USB port to the MIDI port on the console?  Have you been 
using Studio Manager on the same Mac as Qlab simultaneously and if so 
have you had any problems sending MIDI while talking to the 5D via 
USB as well?

===============   in reply to ...

At 4:00 PM -0700 3/11/07, "Michael Keniger" <reg1nex at hotmail.com <mailto:> >
wrote:
>
>>and straight after, I'm working in our studio, so hopefully will get
>  >enough budget for a second Qlab system...
>
>It's certainly affordable, and I think a good investment with the Intel
>machines.
>
>>have fun on the PM5D!
>
>Actually this is the desk that Matt spec'd for the Derby season, so I was
>operating that for 'Christmas Carol', and then (as it happened) for a
>musical in Greenwich (another Autograph gig).  Very cool desk - of course
>Matt's tweaked his software so that it controlled the DCA and Mutes for the
>desk so offline programming is a breeze, in addition to Sysex caputure and
>playback for reverb sends and the like.

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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:05:17 +0000
From: "Daniel Hoole" <danielhoole at googlemail.com <mailto:> >
Subject: Re: [QLab] Remote and QLab
To: "Discussion and support for QLab users." <qlab at lists.figure53.com
<mailto:> >
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On 11/03/07, Paul Peterson <paul at slagheap.net <mailto:> > wrote:

> check out apps like Sofa Control or mira, you can DL these on
> Versiontracker.  I haven't monkeyed around with them, but they appear
> to allow you to control other apps with the remote.

Cheers- I'll check it out & see if it works

> My only thought about this is that the Apple remote is line-of-sight,
> so it might not work too well if the machine you're trying to trigger
> is in a booth or something.

Yeah, for most times it wouldn't be ideal, but for where I work, it
would be useful for the operator when doing rig checks, & during
technicals when programming the console.

> I prefer to just create a wireless VNC connection between my lappie
> and my Mini which runs QLab.

 When I use wireless VNC, the redraw is way too laggy to plot on- what
are you running? or do you go cat5 for plotting, then go wireless to
trigger cues?
Cheers,
Dan

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:06:15 +0000
From: John Leonard <john at johnleonard.co.uk <mailto:> >
Subject: Re: [QLab] Remote and QLab- Timbuktu?
To: "Discussion and support for QLab users." <qlab at lists.figure53.com
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on 11/3/07 23:25, Jim Carroll at jim at shipstore.com <mailto:>  wrote:

> I have never specifically tested it for
> latency, but it always like it is dead-on.

Timbuktu works fine with Qlab. In fact I demoed QLab to some students last
year and used Timbuktu over Skype to show how it was possible to "phone in"
a show, transfer effects from a remote server directly into QLab and stuff
like that. Button pushes are pretty much instant, but the screen update can
get a bit sluggish over a slow network connection.

Regards,

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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:07:25 +0000
From: "Michael Keniger" <reg1nex at hotmail.com <mailto:> >
Subject: Re: [QLab] QLab PM5D ( was better living through Chemistry )
To: qlab at lists.figure53.com <mailto:> 
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"Have you been using Studio Manager on the same Mac as Qlab simultaneously 
and if so
have you had any problems sending MIDI while talking to the 5D via USB as 
well?"

I should say that in both instances I was using Gtype (PC) to throw MIDI at 
the PM5D and an Akai S6000.  This was hooked up with the 5-pin din midi 
input on the desk.
The desk's USB port was hooked up to SM on another PC.  Having both 
communication ports in use did not seem to cause any promlems with the PM5D,

so I would say you are safe to do this on the Mac too.

Never tried using the PM5D USB MIDI and SM at the same time (rather than the

5-pin midi port and USB combo) - but this should not make any difference.

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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:24:58 +0100
From: Nadir Al-Badri <mail at plasmagroup.de <mailto:> >
Subject: [QLab] QLab and Remote Control AirClick
To: qlab at lists.figure53.com <mailto:> 
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Hello,

i was wondering if anybody is using QLab with
Griffin AirClick USB to trigger the Cue play button?
or is there any other experience with wireless
remote controls?

Thanks for any hint,

Nanni

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